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Picasa albums & Google Photos albums
November 13, 2018
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I am attempting to migrate photos from Picasa to GP, but fear I am going to lose control of aggregations (i.e., Picasa albums). I have dozens of albums containing photos w/ a mixture of dates which have been Picasa-exported so they would capture all edits. The folder created by the Picasa Export process has a decent-enough title reflecting the contents. It would be nifty if I could upload said folder to an album in GP, retaining the folder title, but I’m not having much luck. I can of course create an album inside GP typing in folder name & selecting all the photos in my computer’s folder, but that will be a painful process if I must do it many times.  Suggestions/links?

If I am destined to create GP albums one by one from my Picasa Export folders, is there a way to retain their order in the migration? b/c these Picasa Export folders are frequently “curated” they will have a mixture of dates. Seems they will get scrambled in the GP pull into a GP album. Changing the metadata dates using Picasa Tools will give them the same date before migration, but they are then scrambled in a different way. How do I retain the Picasa order? Or must I accept the scramble & hand order within GP?

November 22, 2018
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Robert,

Sorry – there is no easy way to do what you want. 

You’ve already done the first part … exporting from Picasa album to a folder. If you drag and drop a folder from Windows to Google Photos online – it will ask if you want to add them all to an album. You will still need to type in the name of the album. Here’s a video: 

As for the order of photos within the album, as you mentioned – Google Photos uses dates. That’s it. So, your only choices are to change the dates, or manually drag them into order once they are in a Google Photos album. Someday, Google Photos may add the ability to sort by filename. In preparation for that day, you may want to change filenames so that they represent your desired order. That is pretty simple to do in Picasa. Here’s a video: 

I would be interested in seeing your screens and brainstorming with you on the best way to accomplish what you want. We could do this in a remote computer session of about a half hour. If you’re interested, just let me know here and I’ll send you an email.

November 24, 2018
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I had viewed your 432.GP-Manual Upload from Windows before, but managed to skate by the option to upload contents of a Windows folder to a new GP album. That will help. I’ll probably copy the Windows folder name & paste it into the GP request for an album name. Q: If I select & “pull” several Windows folders into GP – as a sort of a “batch” upload, will GP query me for each folder so I can name each one, or will they all get disaggregated into the global GP date-sort.

As for the photo  order, I have used a Picasa option to export w/ numbering for many of my Picasa exports, but not for all (I don’t think that option has always been part of Picasa). Your Picasa <F2> trick will fix that for the un-numbered photos. Thanks for that one!

I’ll continue experimenting as I get more comfortable w/GP. Thank you for your offer to work one-on-one, but I’ll defer that until such time as I get more facile w/ GP.

I’ll first search your database of questions, of course, but I may soon be asking for help w/ process flow as I begin to embrace RAW photos along w/ my cellphone photos. Another day.

November 25, 2018
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Robert,

Good question: Q: If I select & “pull” several Windows folders into GP – as a sort of a “batch” upload, will GP query me for each folder so I can name each one, or will they all get disaggregated into the global GP date-sort.

Unfortunately, the answer is not in your favor. I just tried it – I selected 3 folders, with 20 pictures each, and drag/dropped them to Google Photos. It uploaded 60 pictures and asked if I wanted to make an album with them. 

December 6, 2018
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As described in previous posts on this topic I struggle with dealing with  uploading and e-mailing from Picasa following the difficulties due to changes made by Google. In describing ways to deal with this situation you describe processes using Windows. To what extent are they different or what approach do you suggest for Mac users?

   Thank you,

      Peter

December 7, 2018
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Milton,

Picasa’s ability to upload or email ended last spring. I generally recommend moving to Google Photos. I think it is the best choice in the long run. However, if yoi’re on a Mac, it may be easier in the short term to just use the Photos app that comes with Mac. 

\Let me know a little more about your pictures – how many are on your computer? Do you take photos with your phone now? How do you like to share your photos?

December 8, 2018
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Hello, Mrs. Geek,

Thank you for getting back to me so promptly. I appreciate your suggestions especially because as I recall you helped people like me with Picasa as you do now with Google Photos. I am a self taught senior who has used Picasa as my sole editing and storage process since I first started using a computer about 15 years ago. My photography has been with a series of 35mm’s over the years most recently a DSLR and a upper end point and shoot. We travel quite a bit, as we have a daughter who lives in France. On a typical trip we might take 300+ images. When we get home I upload them directly into a Picasa folder on my Mac desk top. I then cull and edit them. I would usually arrange the best into a Picasa album which before the recent Google changes I would upload to a web album for slide shows or sharing with a few friends and family. I would also e-mail a few of these  or occasional family “snap shots” to friends and family. As a computer neophyte I found the above process to be uncomplicated and user friendly. Unfortunately that world has changed. In addition to the more recent images and files in my computer I have many from travels in the the days before digital photography some of which I have sent away to Digit-Pics to be scanned and many others still in 35mm slide form. I probably have 2-3000 images on my computer and another 500+ in slide form that ideally I would have scanned but am now reluctant to do. I have 8-10 albums in Google Albums now as well as most or all of those images in Google Photos in duplicate form as a result of what I did on didn’t do correctly in trying to upload my files from Picasa. This is probably more than you wanted to know but it may  will give you an idea of my situation with the hope that you may have some suggestions for a relatively uncomplicated process that would work for me  to edit, store and share images.

   Thank you,

   Milton (Peter) Barrett 

December 9, 2018
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Milton,

Thanks for the info. If I were you, I would:

  1. Keep using Picasa for viewing photos stored on computer, edit them, etc. That still works fine – for now. With a new update to your Mac’s operating system it may become a problem, but for now it works.
  2. The problem comes with getting your photos to web albums. You say “I would upload to a web album for slide shows or sharing with a few friends and family” You can accomplish the same thing now just by reversing the process – I call it “Pull” instead of “Push”. When you used Picasa and uploaded to a web album “Push” – that was going to a Google Photos account. If you know that account username and password, you can simply log in at Photos.Google.com and you should see all your existing photos and albums. Then, just use the Upload button to get the photos from your computer to “Pull” those photos up to the cloud and you’re given an opportunity to create an album with them.
  3. Here’s a video 432.GP-Manual Upload from Windows. I know it uses Windows, but since you’re using Picasa on Mac, it’s closer to your reality. My video on uploading from Mac assumes you’re using iPhoto.

Let me know if you can see your photos at photos.google.com

And .. if you can Upload from your computer.

December 11, 2018
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Hello, Mrs. Geek,

   After reading your suggestions and watching the video I was able to get a folder of pictures from Picasa to Google Photos as follows.After choosing the folder I wanted to upload from Picasa I used SELECT ALL on the title of that folder in Picasa. Still in Picasa I  clicked on EXPORT and chose Documents as a destination. I then opened Documents that now showed my folder title listed . I opened the folder and it showed thumbnails of the images. I then opened Google Photos and after shrinking the Documents folder so both were on my screen, I clicked and dragged each of the images onto the Google Photos page/window where they then showed among the other Google Photos images. I was able to do this but wonder if I took a round about way? For example when I click UPLOAD in Google Photos where or how do I give it instructions on what to upload as I appear to have avoided that step? It seems that I must create the intermediate Documents folder to get out of Picasa but after that is there a way to go more directly to Google Photos? Lastly will you tell me how to do CONTROL A in order to Click and Drag the entire batch of pictures vs. one at a time?

Thank you so much for your patient help!

   Peter

December 12, 2018
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Peter, 

You did great until your last step! No need to drag each photo individually … read on.

Yes, it is important to Export from Picasa – that accomplishes 2 things: 1) it saves any and all edits you’ve done to any of the photos and 2) it creates a windows Folder (a real thing) of the photos in the Picasa album (a virtual thing). One thing to be wary of here – make sure that in the Export settings you choose “Use original size” so they don’t get reduced twice.

Using the drag and drop method as you did, you can drag the entire folder to Google Photos – you don’t need to drag the photos one by one, or even Ctrl-A select them all. Just drag the folder icon and drop it, that will upload all the photos in that folder.

There are 2 ways to upload from computer to Google Photos

  1. Drag and drop
  2. use the Upload button in Google Photos

Since you used the drag and drop method, you didn’t need to click the upload button at all and therefore, didn’t need to specify which folders to upload. I call the two methods “Push” and “Pull.” When you drag and drop, you’re pushing. When you use the upload button you’re pulling. 

December 12, 2018
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Mrs. Geek,

Thanks much for your help! If I wanted to use the Upload button vs. Drag and Drop what do  I do after I have Exported the folder to my Mac Documents and clicked on Upload in Google Photos? Also please tell me how I do CONTROL A if you can believe I don’t know. Lastly I have had difficulty getting the Google Photos “pinwheel’ onto my desktop so I can go directly to it vs. going through Chrome?

Peter

December 13, 2018
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When you click Upload from Google Photos on your computer, you will see the folders on your computer – find the one that you just exported to and click Open.

Control A means to hold down the CTRL key on your computer’s keyboard and press A … oh, you’re on a Mac! Then it’s the Cmd key instead of Ctrl.

As for the shortcut – that’s also different on a Mac … I think you need to select the entire address (https://photos.google.com/) from the Google Chrome address bar, then drag it to your desktop.

December 13, 2018
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Thank you! Those both worked. I hope you don’t mind this continuing dialog . I am so grateful to have finally found someone with the knowledge of both Picasa and Google Photos because as I told you Picasa has and continues to be the cornerstone of my photo editing and organizing process. I had a couple of other questions:  Exporting-You recommend “Original size” whereas  I have been using “High Quality” on exporting  because “High Quality” allows me unlimited free storage. Printing-When I print from Google Photos the print comes out with a border in spite of my having specified “borderless”?

   Thanks!

   

December 18, 2018
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  1. Export with Original Size: Here I’m referring to the 1st step in your process – exporting from Picasa to a folder on your hard drive. You want original here, so you’re not downsizing twice. Yes, when you upload to Google Photos I recommend using the High Quality setting for unlimited storage.
  2. White border when printing – that is probably due to your printer. Most printers are not capable of printing (bleed) to the very edge because they have to grab the paper on the edges to pull it thru.
December 24, 2018
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I read all your questions and answers in this thread.  I’m still using Picassa and do not understand why I can’t save to Folders.  The only option is to save to Album.  I enjoy the organization on Picassa is Google Photo the same?

December 26, 2018
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Sorry Niki, but there are no folders in Google Photos. It’s just the way it is. Picasa was computer-based where all files had to be in folders, Google Photos is web-based. It’s a different world.

If you are still using Picasa on your computer, you certainly can – and should – be saving photos to folders. But when you upload to Google Photos, you can only make albums. Tell me more about your situation and maybe I can help.

As a premium member, you can download the eBook Mrs. Geek’s Guide to Google Photos. Please skim thru the whole book (it’s not that long) to get the flavor of Google Photos. Chapter 12 is specifically about Picasa and Google Photos. Also, episode 132 Google Photos for Picasa users should be useful.

January 5, 2019
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Yes, still using picasa, but when I go in to save photos from import (Iphone) the FOLDER option is not showing.  I see create a new album, but not the ability to save to a folder.  I always save imported photos in a new folder beginning with the year.  Now the photos are in picasa under albums.  What have I missed.  I’ve used this program for years.  Look forward to your help.

January 7, 2019
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I have a feeling that some other program jumped in and did the import without you realizing it. I would try canceling any automatic import after you plug in your phone and manually open up Picasa, then File->Import From …

That should make things look like in this video: Picasa: Import from Camera

Let me know.

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