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Identifying people in group photos
January 18, 2021
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June Genis
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I’m trying to learn how to use Google Photos to identify people who appear in old family photos.  I wanted to add a screen shot here to show what I mean but it isn’t pasting. So I’ll have to try and describe what I’m seeing.

When I click on a photo of someone in my people and pets album it brings up a page that shows that person’s head shot followed by several group photos.  Is it telling me that it thinks the person in the head shot is in all of the group photos?  If so, is there a way to tell which person in the group matches the face shot? If not, what is it telling me?

I was going to try to attach the screenshot I saved as a Word file from Open Office but couldn’t figure out to do that either since it only seems to allow jpeg files to be attached and I couldn’t save it that way. 

January 27, 2021
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Yes – when you click on a person’s head shot and see several group photos, Google Photos is saying that the person in the headshot is in the group. It isn’t always right. If you see a group shot that does not include that person, you can select the photo(s) that are wrongly in the group and then click the 3-dot menu and choose “Remove from Results”

As for seeing which people are identified in the picture, you can open the photo, click the i to show the info panel at the right and you’ll see all the faces that are identified. It’s not real good at pointing them out in the group – but that should help.

As for attaching a screenshot to a post here, click the “Upload attachments” button below the post, then click Add files and find the file on your computer, then Start Upload and done.

Let me know if this helps.

And – here is an article about manual facetagging that might give you a bit more information. 

January 27, 2021
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Thanks.  That’s about what I thought.  Unfortunately it leads me to conclude that it doesn’t do a very good job with old (potentially 100 yrs+) photos.  It thought one woman from a very old photo was in just about all the others. I’m sure she’s not in all of them although she may be in some. I may run all those thru some enhancements and see if it does any better. 

I’m basically trying to use photo identification to make genealogical connections.  I discovered that one DNA cousin I found actually had the same exact photo as someone I also know I am connected to by a paper trail.  Now we want to see if any of those people show up in other photos that we each have.  Have you seen any any good references on use of facial recognition for genealogy? I will check the link you provided.

As for uploading the screen shot, the problem was that I could not find a way to save it as a jpg file from Open Office and that seemed to be the only kind that could be uploaded.  I’m not aware of anything else I might have on my computer that I could paste it into and save it jpg either. 

January 27, 2021
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I’ll bet it is worthwhile to go thru them and enhance. I find that cropping so the face is a larger part of the picture is the most effective for face recognition.

Also, whenever you see a message popup about “is this the same person or different” you should go thru the suggestions and answer them. This is how Google learns to get better at identifying your faces.

As for genealogy – I did find this article: https://www.hawk-hill.com/old-…..cognition/

January 28, 2021
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Following your advice I ran an old photo thru Enhancement on MyHeritatage, downloaded the enhanced version and uploaded it to GP.  I then used the editor to crop the picture so that only the heads area was in the photo.  The idea was to get better head shots for my people album.  I then opened the cropped photo and was told there were three people who could be added which was correct.  However, the identification boxes were not over the actual faces and I could not move them.  As best I can tell it looks like it is looking for the faces based on their location in the orginal, not the cropped photo.  How do I get it to look in the right place?

I decided to try and start over by uploading the original uncropped enhanced photo but apparently GP thught I was trying to create a duplicate and althoough it told me it had uploaded all I’m seeing is the cropped photo.  Would first changing the name of the file to be uploaded get around that?

January 28, 2021
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I think if you just wait, Google will eventually adjust the boxes to match the new locations.

January 31, 2021
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Strange things still happening with my People entries.  I’ve even managed to get it so confused that it’s showing a “!” instead of one of my people pictures.  Since I can’t seem to find a way to post screen shots here, is there any way I can work with you on a shared screen to figure out what’s going on?  I think it may be related to thinking that some people in a new picture have already been added from another picture but it’s not being real clear about that.  At what point should something be reported as a bug and what’s the best way to do that?

February 3, 2021
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Sure, we can do a screenshare meeting. I’ll send you and email.

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